Should You Delay Your Social Security Benefits?
By Pinyo • Aug 26th, 2008Last week, I wrote about Social Security, specifically about some of the useful information I culled from the Social Security Statement for my mom. There was an interesting comment from a reader, ToughMoneyLove, regarding the benefit of delaying your retirement because the Social Security Administration gives you 8% bump in benefits each year. Here’s that part of the comment:
For your Mom, she will get an 8% bump in benefits for each year she delays taking SS until age 70. Definitely consider that. Where else can you get a guaranteed 8% return?
Delaying Your Social Security Benefits Is BAD
This may look good at first, but while you are delaying your Social Security benefits, you are receiving nothing. So you are giving up a whole year worth of Social Security income for an 8% increase next year. Let’s illustrate the point with this table:
If I stop working at 62, I get the reduced benefits of $18,156 for the rest of my life. That may sounds like a bad deal, but if I wait until my full retirement age (67 years old), it would take me 12 more years (to the age of 78) to catch up in the total Social Security benefits received. If I do not live to 78, I lose. The issue is even more pronounced if I wait until 70 — I would have to live to 82 to beat the system. With the average lifespan of American male being about 75, I am definitely NOT doing myself a favor by waiting.
Should I Start My Social Security Benefits Early If I Am Working?
If you receive benefits before reaching your full retirement age, your benefit amount will be reduced. Specifically,
- In the years before you reach full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for each $2 you earn above the limit ($13,560 in 2008)
- In the year you reach full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for each $3 you earn above the annual limit ($36,120 in 2008)
- After your full retirement age, your benefits will not be reduced no matter how much you earn.
Let’s assume that we only get 50% benefits between 62-66 and 67% at 67, this is what the table will look like:
In this case, it doesn’t matter if we collect at 67 or 70 because the scenario stays the same as above. However, these penalties make early retirement less attractive if you continue to work. In the example above, it you’re planning to work past 62, it may be worthwhile to wait until full retirement age. Once you live past 72 years old, you’ll be ahead of the curve.
Key Counterpoints From Comments Below
- You may want to delay taking your benefits so that your surviving spouse can enjoy a larger monthly payment. This is even more important if your spouse is a younger female (since women live longer than men). — ToughMoneyLove
- You need to understand the whole retirement funding picture because there are some advantages in drawing from your 401k and IRA early on, while delaying your Social Security benefits. — ToughMoneyLove
- Life expectancy varies by when you were born and how old you currently are, so this dynamic needs to be considered carefully into the equation. — MITBeta
- You may want to start collecting early if you have spouse and young children that are eligible for dependent care. — Zeke
For more information, please visit the Social Security Administration web site.
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I saw an interesting article last week referring to something I had never heard of. Say you start taking benefits at 62 because your family has a history of early deaths and you want to make sure you get something before you expect you might die. If by chance you happen to be totally healthy 5 or 10 years later, you can actually pay back all the money you collected, and then begin drawing at the higher rate as if you had not started collecting at age 62. Of course that requires having a large chunk of cash laying around, but it could be useful in some situations.
Pinyo: One other factor to consider is whether you have a spouse who will be dependent on your benefitt. If she outlives you her survivor benefit will be increased also if you wait. My wife is 4 years younger and her own benefit will be very small. She would very much appreciate having her survivor benefit be as large as possible after I leave this earth. Anyway, keep this in mind when you are considering an early benefit.
The second other factor to consider is consumption smoothing. If your goal is to maintain a steady standard of living in retirement, by delaying SS you can use more of your retirement funds early in retirement to maintain your standard of living, then cut back when SS kicks in at 70 to replace it. This is a good planning tool to smooth things out overall. Think about it.
The 75 average age statistic is from birth. If you are already 60, your life expectancy becomes 81. If you are already 70, your life expectancy becomes 84, etc. Given this information, it is to your advantage to delay Social Security benefits as long as possible.
Additionally, age is not the only factor to consider when deciding when to claim Social Security. Retirees should also consider whether or not they intend to work, which can temporarily reduce benefits and increase taxes if their earnings are too high, and review their spouse’s plans before collecting their due.
I agree, makes no sense to delay at all. I figured out I had to live until 85 to break even. Sheesh. Why don’t they just tell you that? Even the government is sneaky.
Give me the money.
Interesting and thorough post, but as MITBeta says life expectancy is the wild card. Even when you have lived to 75 - the average life expectancy at birth for all American males - you still have a life expectancy of 84. At 84 your life expectancy gets extended to 88 and so forth. As all things in personal finance, this issue depends on a person’s individual situation.
This sort of thing is actuarially adjusted for so that there’s no advantage either way (assuming that you don’t know your own lifespan).
For example, whilst the average male lifespan may be 75, I bet that the typical 70 year old male has a remaining lifespan of 12 years. (i.e. if you make it to 70, on average you’ll make it to 82).
You can really only make a decision that is likely to benefit you if you know that you are likely to live longer/shorter than average.
Good argument from both sides. Personally, I’d take my benefits as soon as I reach my full retirement age. I am not betting on living past 82 to make it beneficial to me.
# In the years before you reach full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for each $2 you earn above the limit ($13,560 in 2008)
# In the year you reach full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for each $3 you earn above the annual limit ($36,120 in 2008)
What is the difference between “the limit” and “the annual limit?
Is “the limit” not an annual limit?
Scott Burns in his latest book “Spend ‘Till The End” makes the arguement that if you spend down your 401(k) money first in your 60s and then take full Social Security when you are 70, instead of vice versa, you’ll have more money and more secure money. Social Security is taxed differently than 401(k) and IRA withdrawals so even if you spend every dime of your 401(k)/IRA at 70, you’ll pay less taxes which leads to a greater standard of living. Plus, you are trading in the whims of the stock and bond markets for the safety of Social Security which is inflation adjusted every year. Alas, most people won’t have enough in savings and will have to take SS as early as possible to make ends meet.
Wow, a lot of interesting discussion here!
@Steve — I will have to look into that, but I think very few people would be able to manage something like that.
@ToughMoneyLove — Excellent point about spousal benefits and to look at the whole retirement picture that include 401k, IRA, and pension. I have to think about it more carefully. It’s easier to say which is better or worse when I look at SS in its own silo, but it’s a lot more complicated when other factors are involved.
@MITBeta — Thank you for sharing the link. It’s very good information.
@Sam — I agree, and I did take that into consideration. Good point about looking at both spouses plan in conjunction.
@Greener Pastures — That was my point, but there are so many good counterpoints mentioned here. I am reconsidering, but haven’t changed my stance yet.
@Vikri — Definitely no one size fit all in personal finance.
@Plonkee — I think that’s the intention of SSA, and you’re right about taking family history into consideration. It’s more difficult for me to estimate since all four of my grandparents died early due to accident.
@Terry — They are the same. Sorry.
@Dave — Thank for sharing that. It’s something that I’ll need to investigate, but the logic appears to be sound.
My mom will probably take hers early, but only because she’s got a very short life expectancy. Her feeling is “might as well.” But otherwise I think she and dad would have put them off for a few years at least. Dad probably will.
@Terry — They are the same. Sorry.
Um, $13,560 and $36,120 are definitely NOT the same. (grin)
That is why I asked the question.
@Mrs. Micah — That’s very sad about your mom. I am sorry.
@Terry — I thought you meant the “limit” and “annual limit”. As far as the limits of $13,560 and $36,120, there’s greater penalty during the earlier years which is reduced during the full retirement year (thus greater limit). Once you reach full retirement age, there’s no longer any limit.
I hope that clears it up.
I had an additional consideration. At age 65 my children were ages 11 and 9. This meant that SS payments for me also brought monthly checks for the daughters. Since theirs would end at age 18, a five year delay would cut their eligibility to two years and four years respectively. I chose to take the 87% increase as early as possible.
@Zeke — Nice add. Dependent benefits is something I have not considered.
What if you can’t afford to quit at 62? Boy, I sure would like to…but it ain’t a-gunna happen. Meanwhile, I earn enough that Social Security payments would be entirely confiscated.
I blogged on this topic a week or two ago, to report the discovery that you can collect before your “full” retirement age (LOL! far as I’m concerned, that arrived at about age 42…but the gummint doesn’t see it that way!), invest the money and make some change on it, and then at age 66 or 70 turn it back to the government, get your taxes fully refunded, and collect the full amount you’d be entitled to at the older age.
My husband will be 62 this October the 10th, 2008. If he delays taking SS at 62, can he decide to start drawing social security at 63 or 64 or any other age that he chooses between 62 and 661/2?
Also, if he decides to starting drawing his social security at 62, how much additional yearly income would he be allowed to make in addition to his social security without being penalized?
I hope those questions make sense to you? I would really appreciate an answer.
@W. W. Paddock — I’ll try my best to answer your questions, but you should sit down with a financial advisor who can review your situation more in depth.
“If he delays taking SS at 62, can he decide to start drawing social security at 63 or 64 or any other age that he chooses between 62 and 661/2?”
The answer is yes, each year that you wait the benefits will increase slightly. For example, if you wait until 64, your monthly payment will be higher than if you start at 62.
“Also, if he decides to starting drawing his social security at 62, how much additional yearly income would he be allowed to make in addition to his social security without being penalized?”
Currently, it’s $13,560 per year. If you make more than that, your social security benefits will be halved.
I hope this helps.
@W.W.Paddock — You can get your answers directly from the horse’s mouth by going to http://www.ssa.gov (notice that it is .gov and not .com). You will find many many issues covered there.
@Zeke — Thank you for pointing out SSA.gov. I should’ve included that in my article.
I’m wondering about my situation. I am 65 and can get full social security without a reduction, but my salary is high and I hope to keep working until I’m 70. On the one hand, it seems like starting SS is good because I can bank the whole check.
But what about taxes? The additional income would put me in that “over 250K a year”, which may end up taking a huge chunk of that SS check.
Your tables don’t take that into account.
@Iwe - I don’t know what to say. If you make that much money you should be talking to a financial planner, and not asking a blogger.
Being a blogger didn’t stop you from discussing it with others. If I was rich, I
WOULD retire. Anyway, my phone appointment with SS was today, and I
told them I would try to wait till I’m 70. By the way, my financial planner just
finds ways to throw my money away in bad investments.
Gosh, Iwe, if you don’t feel “rich” in the neighborhood of 250K, what hope is there for the rest of us?
Well, I was thinking of my work income plus the SS income, but I wasn’t thinking
clearly. I still wouldn’t reach 250K.
But the question still applies. The tables seem to be based on a
person who starts SS at 66 but also retires and so isn’t in a high tax bracket.
Unless I’m missing something.
@Iwe
I suggest you go to http://www.socialsecurity.gov/ if you need further clarification.
What you need to ask yourself is if you need the money. If not, wait until you’re fully retired so that your not in such a high tax bracket.
I turn 62 on August 13, 2009 and plan to collect my SS then. I have been told I would not receive my first check until October or November, 2 months later. When should I expect my first check?