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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.moolanomy.com/1421/cash-envelope-budgeting-system/#comment-22893</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanaya, if you want to follow Steve&#039;s process then divide by two instead of 4.3. According to your previous reply in June you intended to begin budgeting and tracking expenses. How&#039;s that going? You don&#039;t need to reply to this post. You just need to reply to yourself. Look hard at any advances you&#039;ve made and even harder at any goals you have not achieved. Then pat yourself on the back for the advanced and work harder at solving the problem areas and then repeat the process every month forever more! Financial responsibility is not a goal that can be achieved. It is an ongoing process that if you ever stop will return you to the pain and stress you&#039;re feeling currently.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanaya, if you want to follow Steve&#8217;s process then divide by two instead of 4.3. According to your previous reply in June you intended to begin budgeting and tracking expenses. How&#8217;s that going? You don&#8217;t need to reply to this post. You just need to reply to yourself. Look hard at any advances you&#8217;ve made and even harder at any goals you have not achieved. Then pat yourself on the back for the advanced and work harder at solving the problem areas and then repeat the process every month forever more! Financial responsibility is not a goal that can be achieved. It is an ongoing process that if you ever stop will return you to the pain and stress you&#8217;re feeling currently.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Tanaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve thanks for the info. O.k so I admit it, I wish I had paid attention in math class, but we get paid bi- monthly so how would that change the number to divide by? For all of you who are asking yourself, does her husband really let her handle the finances? The answer is Yes, but the bills get paid but we can never, never save and get ahead and he&#039;s not real helpful when I say pack your lunch for work dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve thanks for the info. O.k so I admit it, I wish I had paid attention in math class, but we get paid bi- monthly so how would that change the number to divide by? For all of you who are asking yourself, does her husband really let her handle the finances? The answer is Yes, but the bills get paid but we can never, never save and get ahead and he&#8217;s not real helpful when I say pack your lunch for work dear.</p>
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		<title>By: steve in massachusetts</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve in massachusetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tanaya:

the way to start with this system when you&#039;re living paycheck to paycheck is to first add up all the nonnegotiable monthly expenses like your rent, car insurance,(leave groceries out of this; you&#039;ll see why in a second), and divide that figure by 4.3 (the number of paychecks in a month).

Every week, leave the figure you came up with in your checking account, and take out enough cash to buy groceries and pay for your transportation for both you and your husband, children or family members. Put that cash in the physical envelopes. One for grocery, one for transportation... you get the idea.

Now you only spend out of those envelopes. (you may need to give an envelope to other family members for their weekly spending needs too).

Do this every week and at the end of the month, the money for your rent will have accumulated in your checking account, since you didn&#039;t spend anything except what&#039;s in the envelopes and left the right amount for your nonnegotiable expenses from your paycheck every week.

Actually, that&#039;s how you would use YNAB too, it&#039;s not true that you need a huge chunk of cash to start out with. But really, a few envelopes for weekly spending (groceries, transportation, maybe clothing and entertainment) combined with leaving enough money from your paychecks in your checking account so that at the end of the month you can meet rent and car insurance and whatever, and you should be good to go. It&#039;s simple and it works, assuming you actually are taking in enough money to pay for all the stuff you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tanaya:</p>
<p>the way to start with this system when you&#8217;re living paycheck to paycheck is to first add up all the nonnegotiable monthly expenses like your rent, car insurance,(leave groceries out of this; you&#8217;ll see why in a second), and divide that figure by 4.3 (the number of paychecks in a month).</p>
<p>Every week, leave the figure you came up with in your checking account, and take out enough cash to buy groceries and pay for your transportation for both you and your husband, children or family members. Put that cash in the physical envelopes. One for grocery, one for transportation&#8230; you get the idea.</p>
<p>Now you only spend out of those envelopes. (you may need to give an envelope to other family members for their weekly spending needs too).</p>
<p>Do this every week and at the end of the month, the money for your rent will have accumulated in your checking account, since you didn&#8217;t spend anything except what&#8217;s in the envelopes and left the right amount for your nonnegotiable expenses from your paycheck every week.</p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s how you would use YNAB too, it&#8217;s not true that you need a huge chunk of cash to start out with. But really, a few envelopes for weekly spending (groceries, transportation, maybe clothing and entertainment) combined with leaving enough money from your paychecks in your checking account so that at the end of the month you can meet rent and car insurance and whatever, and you should be good to go. It&#8217;s simple and it works, assuming you actually are taking in enough money to pay for all the stuff you need.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinyo</title>
		<link>http://www.moolanomy.com/1421/cash-envelope-budgeting-system/#comment-21569</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tanaya - You can only cut your expenses so much, so don&#039;t forget to look for ways to earn more money too. Even if you earn only $100 extra a month, it will help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tanaya &#8211; You can only cut your expenses so much, so don&#8217;t forget to look for ways to earn more money too. Even if you earn only $100 extra a month, it will help.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the support and pep talk Bill, much appreciated. Had a heart to heart with the hubby last night about cutting back even more. Start keeping logs of the money spent to see where we are splurging too much. Set up the envelope system for groceries,gas and misc. everything else is either auto withdrawn or paid online, with the exception of some of the doctor bills. Will make a valiant effort for at least a month to see spending trends and then work from there. Thanks again and if you have anymore suggestions, I&#039;m all ears!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support and pep talk Bill, much appreciated. Had a heart to heart with the hubby last night about cutting back even more. Start keeping logs of the money spent to see where we are splurging too much. Set up the envelope system for groceries,gas and misc. everything else is either auto withdrawn or paid online, with the exception of some of the doctor bills. Will make a valiant effort for at least a month to see spending trends and then work from there. Thanks again and if you have anymore suggestions, I&#8217;m all ears!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanaya, just remember to take care of yourself and your loved ones first, NO MATTER WHAT! They&#039;re the ones that will be there for you through thick and thin. Anyone else, ANYONE who is putting pressure on you to pay up at any cost to your family is NOT YOUR FRIEND. Do what you can to get those people out of your life as quickly as possible. You&#039;ll be far better off for it. NO ONE will begrudge you any action you take to provide for the subsistence of those you love.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanaya, just remember to take care of yourself and your loved ones first, NO MATTER WHAT! They&#8217;re the ones that will be there for you through thick and thin. Anyone else, ANYONE who is putting pressure on you to pay up at any cost to your family is NOT YOUR FRIEND. Do what you can to get those people out of your life as quickly as possible. You&#8217;ll be far better off for it. NO ONE will begrudge you any action you take to provide for the subsistence of those you love.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanaya</title>
		<link>http://www.moolanomy.com/1421/cash-envelope-budgeting-system/#comment-21553</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the info. There are little luxuries that we have and they are few. May have to think about trimming back even more. Thanks for the suggestions they are greatly appreciated. I do think I was looking for a magic bullet. Thanks for the reality check!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the info. There are little luxuries that we have and they are few. May have to think about trimming back even more. Thanks for the suggestions they are greatly appreciated. I do think I was looking for a magic bullet. Thanks for the reality check!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pinyo</title>
		<link>http://www.moolanomy.com/1421/cash-envelope-budgeting-system/#comment-21551</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tanaya - You don&#039;t have to spend money to buy the software, you can also use simple spreadsheet -- even free ones like Google Docs.

As far as how to stop living paycheck to paycheck, you&#039;ll have to make some sacrifices. I can see your situation is tough. However, the only way to do it is to earn more and spend less.

* Are you paying for anything that you can &quot;live&quot; without? 
* Are you paying for something that has a less expensive alternative?

You&#039;ll have to look hard and dig deep, but that&#039;s how it&#039;s done. There&#039;s no magic bullet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tanaya &#8211; You don&#8217;t have to spend money to buy the software, you can also use simple spreadsheet &#8212; even free ones like Google Docs.</p>
<p>As far as how to stop living paycheck to paycheck, you&#8217;ll have to make some sacrifices. I can see your situation is tough. However, the only way to do it is to earn more and spend less.</p>
<p>* Are you paying for anything that you can &#8220;live&#8221; without?<br />
* Are you paying for something that has a less expensive alternative?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to look hard and dig deep, but that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s done. There&#8217;s no magic bullet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so I have checked out the YNAB website. For someone who has never seen a spreadsheet let alone do one, how easy will it be for me? Also, I noticed there&#039;s not a tutorial for rule#1. How does one get to paying bills on time using this system with rule#1? Our situation is not due to having a bunch of credit card debt, however we do have 1 card. We live paycheck to paycheck just in what it takes to live, utilities,mortgage, one vehicle payment and many, many medical bills due to our 2 children that have congenital kidney conditions. I&#039;m having trouble understanding how this works. But am very interested. The pro version I can say without a doubt would be over my head and question if I can navigate the basic. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, a person has to save for 4-6 months before attempting to use this in order to have enough money to spend next month what I earned last month? Help please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so I have checked out the YNAB website. For someone who has never seen a spreadsheet let alone do one, how easy will it be for me? Also, I noticed there&#8217;s not a tutorial for rule#1. How does one get to paying bills on time using this system with rule#1? Our situation is not due to having a bunch of credit card debt, however we do have 1 card. We live paycheck to paycheck just in what it takes to live, utilities,mortgage, one vehicle payment and many, many medical bills due to our 2 children that have congenital kidney conditions. I&#8217;m having trouble understanding how this works. But am very interested. The pro version I can say without a doubt would be over my head and question if I can navigate the basic. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, a person has to save for 4-6 months before attempting to use this in order to have enough money to spend next month what I earned last month? Help please?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanaya</title>
		<link>http://www.moolanomy.com/1421/cash-envelope-budgeting-system/#comment-21510</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 12:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the suggestions and for the visual tutorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestions and for the visual tutorial.</p>
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